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[[File:Icon_Unknown_Status.jpg]] '''Track 80''': [[Mississippi John Hurt - Spike Driver Blues]]

[[File:Anthology Track 80 label.jpg |thumb| |left|]] Record label gives no authorship accreditation. Nor does [http://www.78discography.com/Para125.htm 78discography.com]. Eric Lugosch claims this song was written by John Hurt himself [http://www.ericlugosch.com/spike_driver_blues.html]. According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.

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   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Lead Belly''    recorded in 1940 or 1942 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Commercial_Recordings_After_1940 wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/17UCk81GhqjbGp2OYzUNKd Spotify]
   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Odetta''    recorded in 1957 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/14hqQ5ePM6EhNVnJuTTSAO Spotify]
   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Ken Colyer''    recorded in 1955 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/6rP6kd1xXqjsr234NbBOUu Spotify]
   '''Take it to the Captain''' ''by the Delmore Brothers''    recorded in 1948 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uff3RmUVg-s YouTube]
   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Lonnie Donegan''    recorded in 1959 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/575ecIV4oOGjwGJjAG58zn Spotify]
   '''Nine Pound Hammer''' ''by Sanford Clark''    recorded in 1956 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/4C2KJgv8WnifPzlHNiEr7j Spotify]
   '''Nine Pound Hammer''' ''by Flatt and Scruggs''    recorded in 1962 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/77V220PLjqeYYgdYW4f4DJ Spotify]

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−	According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is ~~'''~~in copyright~~'''~~ until ~~'''~~1st January 2037~~'''.~~	+	According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.
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−	However, according to the [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=spike+driver+blues&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud Folksong index], this song is a version of Roud 4299. A [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=4299&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud number search] returns a number of versions which pre-date Hurt's recording across a wide geographical area (Tennessee, W Virginia, Virginia, Alabama, N Carolina), the earliest of which [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=1915&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=4299&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query] dates from 1915-16 (collected in Auburn, Alabama) when Hurt would have been in his early 20s. This version begins with the same first line as Hurt's version. Although it is possible that Hurt composed the song and that it had spread to eastern Alabama by 1915-16, this seems unlikely.
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−	~~It thus seems reasonable to ignore Lugosh's statement, and treat this composition as '''public domain'''~~.

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   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Lead Belly''    recorded in 1940 or 1942 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Commercial_Recordings_After_1940 wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/17UCk81GhqjbGp2OYzUNKd Spotify]
   '''Take This Hammer''' ''by Ken Colyer''    recorded in 1955 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/6rP6kd1xXqjsr234NbBOUu Spotify]
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   '''Nine Pound Hammer''' ''by Sanford Clark''    recorded in 1956 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/4C2KJgv8WnifPzlHNiEr7j Spotify]

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	[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]		[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]
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		+	== Alternative Versions ==
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		+	'''Take This Hammer''' ''by Lead Belly'' recorded in 1940 or 1942 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Commercial_Recordings_After_1940 wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/17UCk81GhqjbGp2OYzUNKd Spotify]
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		+	'''Take This Hammer''' ''by Ken Colyer'' recorded in 1955 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/6rP6kd1xXqjsr234NbBOUu Spotify]
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		+	'''Take it to the Captain''' ''by the Delmore Brothers'' recorded in 1948 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uff3RmUVg-s YouTube]
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		+	'''Take This Hammer''' ''by Lonnie Donegan'' recorded in 1959 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/575ecIV4oOGjwGJjAG58zn Spotify]
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		+	'''Nine Pound Hammer''' ''by Sanford Clark'' recorded in 1956 (according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_This_Hammer#Recordings wikipedia]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/4C2KJgv8WnifPzlHNiEr7j Spotify]

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−	[[File:~~Icon_Unknown_Status~~.jpg]] '''Track 80: Mississippi John Hurt - Spike Driver Blues''' ''Okeh 8692; Recorded in New York, 28.12.28''	+	[[File:Icon_Public_Domain.jpg]] '''Track 80: Mississippi John Hurt - Spike Driver Blues''' ''Okeh 8692; Recorded in New York, 28.12.28''

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−	According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.	+	According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is '''in copyright''' until '''1st January 2037'''.
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		+	However, according to the [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=spike+driver+blues&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud Folksong index], this song is a version of Roud 4299. A [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=4299&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud number search] returns a number of versions which pre-date Hurt's recording across a wide geographical area (Tennessee, W Virginia, Virginia, Alabama, N Carolina), the earliest of which [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=&field=all&fieldshow=multi&op_9=precise&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=1915&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=4299&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query] dates from 1915-16 (collected in Auburn, Alabama) when Hurt would have been in his early 20s. This version begins with the same first line as Hurt's version. Although it is possible that Hurt composed the song and that it had spread to eastern Alabama by 1915-16, this seems unlikely.
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		+	It thus seems reasonable to ignore Lugosh's statement, and treat this composition as '''public domain'''.


	[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]		[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]

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−	[[File:Icon_Unknown_Status.jpg]] '''Track 80~~'''~~: [[Mississippi John Hurt - Spike Driver Blues]]	+	[[File:Icon_Unknown_Status.jpg]] '''Track 80: Mississippi John Hurt - Spike Driver Blues''' ''Okeh 8692; Recorded in New York, 28.12.28''
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		+	[[File:Anthology Track 80 label.jpg \|thumb\| \|left\|]] Record label gives no authorship accreditation. Nor does [http://www.78discography.com/Para125.htm 78discography.com].
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		+	Eric Lugosch claims this song was written by John Hurt himself [http://www.ericlugosch.com/spike_driver_blues.html].
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		+	According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.

−	[[File:Anthology Track 80 label.jpg \|thumb\| \|left\|]] Record label gives no authorship accreditation. Nor does [http://www.78discography.com/Para125.htm 78discography.com]. Eric Lugosch claims this song was written by John Hurt himself [http://www.ericlugosch.com/spike_driver_blues.html]. According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.

	[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]		[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]

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	[[File:Anthology Track 80 label.jpg \|thumb\| \|left\|]] Record label gives no authorship accreditation. Nor does [http://www.78discography.com/Para125.htm 78discography.com]. Eric Lugosch claims this song was written by John Hurt himself [http://www.ericlugosch.com/spike_driver_blues.html]. According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.		[[File:Anthology Track 80 label.jpg \|thumb\| \|left\|]] Record label gives no authorship accreditation. Nor does [http://www.78discography.com/Para125.htm 78discography.com]. Eric Lugosch claims this song was written by John Hurt himself [http://www.ericlugosch.com/spike_driver_blues.html]. According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt wikipedia], John Hurt died in 1966, meaning that if Lugosch is correct, this composition is in copyright until 1st January 2037.
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		+	[[Parallel Anthology Research\|Parallel anthology main index page]]