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| − | [http://www.lizlyle.lofgrens.org/RmOlSngs/RTOS-CharlesGuit.html | + | [http://www.lizlyle.lofgrens.org/RmOlSngs/RTOS-CharlesGuit.html Bob Waltz] agrees, saying that "the unknown author simply took the earlier ballad 'James A. Rogers' (executed in New York in 1858) and 'zipped in' the details of the Garfield case. This is no surprise; the same tune carried at least two other murder/confession ballads, 'John T. Williams' and 'Ewing Brooks'." |
The [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=4619&field=20&fieldshow=multi&op_9=or&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=recording&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=or&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=444&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud Folksong Index] classifies this song as a version of Roud 444. A Roud number search for this song [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=4619&field=20&fieldshow=multi&op_9=or&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=444&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query] returns several collected versions which pre-date Harrell's recording, dating as far back as 1907 and from a wide geographical area (Missouri, N Carolina, Oklahoma, W Virginia). | The [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=4619&field=20&fieldshow=multi&op_9=or&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=recording&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=or&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=444&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query Roud Folksong Index] classifies this song as a version of Roud 444. A Roud number search for this song [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op=or&query=4619&field=20&fieldshow=multi&op_9=or&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=notempty&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=444&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query] returns several collected versions which pre-date Harrell's recording, dating as far back as 1907 and from a wide geographical area (Missouri, N Carolina, Oklahoma, W Virginia). | ||
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| + | The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Guiteau_%28song%29 wikipedia] page for this song describes it as "traditional" and "based on another old ballad, 'James A. Rogers'". | ||
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| + | == Alternative Versions == | ||
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| + | '''Charles Guiteau''' ''by Ramblin' Jack Elliott'' recorded between 1952 and 1955 (according to album title): [http://open.spotify.com/track/2pWYaKIHKz5EgRluJFwAOn Spotify] | ||
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| + | ''Unable to find whether Elliott claimed arrangement credit'' | ||
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| + | '''Charles Guiteau''' ''by Virgil Sturgill'' recorded in 1955 (according to [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&fieldshow=multi&field_14=recording&field_20=444&op_10=notempty&op_9=and&start=11&output=Record&access=off RFSI]): [http://open.spotify.com/track/2W5YjBIOlB1EMMR2qVrX3H Spotify] | ||
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| + | ''Unable to find whether any arrangement credit is claimed for this version'' | ||
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| + | '''Charles Guiteau''' ''by Mr. L.O. Smith'' recorded in 1960: [http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/songinformation.aspx?ID=478 Max Hunter Collection] | ||
Latest revision as of 17:29, 12 July 2013
Track 16: Kelly Harrell - Charles Giteau Victor 20797-A; Recorded in Camden, New Jersey, 23.3.1927
Record label does not assign authorship. Nor does www.78discography.com, victor.library.ucsb.edu or either Anthology booklet.
This song is written from the point of view of Charles Guiteau, assassin of President James A Garfield, executed for this crime in 1882.
According to the Old Weird America blog, this song "originated as a printed broadside and have been taken in folk tradition ever since. It was written in a form of a 'goodnight', a criminal’s confession before his execution. [...] Guiteau’s 'goodnight' is based on a New York broadside 'The lamentation of James Rodgers', from which it borrows entire verses, just remplacing the name of the criminal and the dates."
Bob Waltz agrees, saying that "the unknown author simply took the earlier ballad 'James A. Rogers' (executed in New York in 1858) and 'zipped in' the details of the Garfield case. This is no surprise; the same tune carried at least two other murder/confession ballads, 'John T. Williams' and 'Ewing Brooks'."
The Roud Folksong Index classifies this song as a version of Roud 444. A Roud number search for this song [1] returns several collected versions which pre-date Harrell's recording, dating as far back as 1907 and from a wide geographical area (Missouri, N Carolina, Oklahoma, W Virginia).
The wikipedia page for this song describes it as "traditional" and "based on another old ballad, 'James A. Rogers'".
Given that the tune and most of the words appear to date back to at least shortly after 1858, with the remainder of the words being inserted shortly after 1882 by an "unknown author", and in the absence of evidence of any competing claim to authorship, there are good grounds for treating this composition as public domain.
Parallel anthology main index page
Alternative Versions
Charles Guiteau by Ramblin' Jack Elliott recorded between 1952 and 1955 (according to album title): Spotify Unable to find whether Elliott claimed arrangement credit
Charles Guiteau by Virgil Sturgill recorded in 1955 (according to RFSI): Spotify Unable to find whether any arrangement credit is claimed for this version
Charles Guiteau by Mr. L.O. Smith recorded in 1960: Max Hunter Collection
